Reason why should BLS get banned.

Ok so scoopphase and that random boi are dueling, ninjas vs plants

scoopphase 1700 LP
random boi 700 LP

scoopphases field: REDMD pulsar no backrows
hand: 2 cards

random bois field: 1 token no backrows
hand: 1 card

scoop phase ends random boi draws veiler summons it sync formula eff top mind control take pulsar go stardust summons last card in hand BLS

broken shit? anyway this is a good reason for it to get banned and here is a chat between em after bls showed up

Spoiler:

yugioh is bad for health

Shadow wrote:

yugioh is bad for health

That.

BLS is not only bad as a game changer (we have broken game changer cards that are played like dark hole and monster reborn), but imagine that during some time chaos sorcerer was limited. Now, we're bringing a chaos sorcerer that has a better banishing effect and has that OTK-allowing ability of double attacking. Oh, and he's a 3000 atk beater on top of that. In today's meta, not many monsters can beat 3K attack with pure strength and just attacking. BLS is so strong that I try to add a copy of it to all my decks (when possible). Heck, even my worms deck has BLS in it.
It was a nice experiment to have BLS back in play (and for Konami to make some $$$ off of those BLS copies they could have never sold otherwise), but after this format, BLS belongs back to the ban list (either that or bring us Chaos Emperor Dragon so that we'll have all the chaos cards and total YGO chaos).

coolchemist2001 wrote:

(either that or bring us Chaos Emperor Dragon so that we'll have all the chaos cards and total YGO chaos).

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! U_U

I think have some more broken cards as BLS, DaD, JD etc. BLS is not broken yeah sack card as Heavy Storm and Dark Hole to. So i think it's not reason if anybody can sack with this card. Have som card what can be overpower.

but he is a bit op and combine his attack twice with honest, against an opponents only monster that has 2000 attack, OTK right there, and possible ftk with an awesome starting hand and alot of luck

If i have 5 exodia cards in my hand i won. Or Koaki Doom+GallisBirdman GG to. Trishula and 3 Desynchron. I think if anybody make the win for the luck can't be good duelist. BLS sack cards yeah and can change the duel. But what i say some cards are broken to. Without any cards. DaD sometimes GG in the middle of duel, JD to, BLS not. Cuz can't avoid the s/t cards.

The difference between those and BLS Tara is that BlS is way easier to use. Exodia you have to draw all 5 otherwise useless cards, DAD is good but a little more situational and he destroys and not removes and isn't as strong. For BLS all you need is one each of the 2 most common attributes in grave. I understand why konami wanted to experiment with him being back, bit he never should have left the banlist. Even these days he's just too good. It seems I don't lose much to players, but BLS

Lol at the chat.

j0hnb0i wrote:

Lol at the chat.

LoL t the spam

If they bring back chaos end dragon, they have to bring back yata, premature and witch of the black forest good old times :p

Scorpion67 wrote:

If they bring back chaos end dragon, they have to bring back yata, premature and witch of the black forest broken old times :p

fixed.

BLS, Gorz, Dark Hole, Reborn, Brionac, One for One, Dark Armed, Hyperion, Mind Control, Judgment Dragon, Grapha, Lonefire blossom, Trishula, Future Fusion, Avarice, Gateway of the six sam, Kristya, Ultimate Offering.

All of these cards are definitely worthy of being banned. But Konami likes money, so they won't be.

SirFunchalot wrote:

BLS, Gorz, Dark Hole, Reborn, Brionac, One for One, Dark Armed, Hyperion, Mind Control, Judgment Dragon, Grapha, Lonefire blossom, Trishula, Future Fusion, Avarice, Gateway of the six sam, Kristya, Ultimate Offering.

All of these cards are definitely worthy of being banned. But Konami likes money, so they won't be.

that would be ridiculous if they banned all of that

1) Gorz wins games you should lose and is an unhealthy card for the metagame.
2) Dark Hole opens up OTK plays far more than it should, the excuse "Starlight Road stops it" doesn't make it any less broken.
3) Monster Reborn is BETTER than Premature Burial, which is only banned because of Brionac, who should be banned.
4) One for One is a generic card that can search out a huge variety of monsters from the DECK and in every deck it's used in it sets up OTK plays (psychics pre-mind master ban, frogs pre-substitoad ban, plants with glow-up, etc)
5) DAD is far from hard to play, and every time a top tier deck that uses predominantly DARK monsters is released he becomes used in that deck (see Dark World, Zombies, Destiny Heroes). He can go and it wouldn't negatively effect any archetype.
6) Hyperion since it is far less powerful than DAD could probably be okay at 1, but no more then that, he's way too easy to play.
7) JD like hyperion should be at no more than 1 (mostly because LS can easily put him in the grave and you won't draw a way to get it back)
Grapha IMO is far better than Hyperion is. he is a +1 to summon and has huge attack and if discarded can destroy a card. How is this thing at all fair?
9) Lonefire Blossom is the only card in the plant engine (other than dandylion) that actually deserves the ban IMO since its the card that can access any of the other cards at will and is the card that sets up far and away the most combos. Most cards that easily special summon from the deck are broken (Last Will, One for One, Emergency Teleport) they're just unhealthy cards.
10) Limiting ANY synchro or Xyz monster is pointless since hardly any of them are worth running multiples of, the only ones that actually deserved it are Formula Synchron and Dewloren. Trishula even at 3, was hardly ever ran at more than 1. BTH doesn't stop trishula, and mirror is just a bad card 99.99% of the time, the only way to stop it is to have veiler, solemn, fiendish chain, which stop most monsters anyway. Trishula is just far too powerful of a synchro to be allowed, Mist Wurm will be a perfectly fine substitute if he were to be banned.
11) The good thing about Future Fusion isn't that it 2 turns later special summons a fusion monster, the good thing about Future Fusion has and always will be the fact that it can essentially be 5 foolish burial's in 1 turn AND a card to bait out MST or else you also get a free 5000 beatstick. Before the semi-limit of Dewloren again Future Fusion was a 1 card FTK, where if you drew it in your opening hand with any 5 other cards, you could FTK your opponent.
12) Avarice is a card that has always been abused in decks that fill the grave fast. Last format we had plants easily running 3 copies since it let them re-set their combos, and before then we'd had Merchant Pot Turbo, PoA is a card that is a +1 like Pot of Greed and lets you set up more combos by shuffling key cards back into the deck, the cost is hardly the cost it used to be.
13) Gateway wins samurais the game when they have it almost every time. Why shouldn't it be banned? It sets up insane combos and gives them so many free monsters there's really next to no reason it should not be at 0.
14) Ultimate Offering could probably go to 1 just because it would make decks based around it so inconsistent that it would be negligible, but especially with the new Xyz mechanic, I feel this card and its ability to set up OTK plays with self-replacing monsters has definitely overstayed it's welcome.
15) Who cares if they go minus if they win that turn? That's why Brionac should be banned. It also sets up combos by putting cards you want in the graveyard in the graveyard, also it can allow you to re-use your own spells and traps like the previously mentioned premature burial which lead to broken combos.

I could answer all of that, but there's no need because you won't listen. Just like the Gorz discussion. Which I don't get really, you only like competitive decks but want konami to throw every semi decent card in the trash...no need to be a hater just bc you get sacked by Gorz or Hole every once in a while

Cards that by themselves give a player a sacked win aren't balanced cards and shouldn't be allowed in advanced play. I don't know if you play other TCGs, but in MTG if a card really is that powerful in the extended or legacy (and rarely but still occasionally in type II) format they ban them so that they don't give players wins simply for abusing their brokeness and unlike in yugioh they actually test cards before they print them. If any of the cards I listed were tested they wouldn't have been released.

oh i get him now, he is mad because like harper said he gets sacked a few times by a gorz or a hole see to the cards themselves its not fair to judge them based on a few bad scenarios you've had those cards against you. Sacked by it or not the players who use those cards have spent hours fine tuning ratios test playing combos researching situations and coming up with combos and top decks that they can set their decks up with so that when situations like those arise they can literally tell whats up next, granted with a lot of luck too. Let me learn ya something funch, instead of trolling about being sacked and every card that beats you is op how about you take a look at your deck and see how many of those op cards your playing, or how come you end up in those situations to get sacked in the first place and spend all that trolling energy into fine tuning tweaking and researching your combos and strategy and just maybe you wouldnt get sacked so much just saying...

He does, he's a pretty good player. I think he's just tired of being beaten by noobs sometimes bc of the power level of some of those cards

hey it happens to the best of them i know, lol but thats still not a reason to go trolling on every card that n00b owned on him with, am i right...?

Yeah, that was my point. No need to hate on 'em. Besides, if ALL that was banned, it would be a boring format. With no Heavy and the derpiest and even semi decent cards gone, it would be set five backrow and Thunder King or heck even a random 2000 beater bc who cares about special summons. Whoever sets that up first probably won. Which means whoever went first would win. And it would turn unto a normal summon game...say what you want about the crazy combos we can do, but it's more fun than normal summoning all day

haha, yeah there might be some truth to that, 5 back row and tkr, thats just nuts though, probably would see a whole lot of scooping though haha, and the return of the monarchs while we're at it lol

If Heavy Storm was still legal they would but with the 5 backrw of a Heavy-less format and Monarchs generally not running traps because of Treeborn and Fishborg banned...nope

I never said Heavy Storm should be banned. The reason for that is like you said, if it's allowed, it reinforces players to not just run decks where they set their hand of defense and a few slow moving advantage gaining monsters. Heavy Storm forces you to play more conservatively simply by a matter of existing. Every single other card I said I'm saying should be banned, not because you get n00bsacked, that will happen occasionally in any card game because there is a luck factor, yugioh isn't chess, but rather they should be banned because over the past 5 or so years there has been a TREMENDOUS power creep in yugioh and these are some of the absolutely most powerful metagame influencing cards. Almost every single top tier deck runs Gorz, Dark Hole, Reborn, Brionac, Mind Control, and Trishula, and almost any of those cards can instantly give that deck a win after being played. Decks don't need generic game winning cards, they're unhealthy for the game. The rest of the cards I said, while they aren't ran in practically everything, the decks that they are used in, they are so incredibly powerful that they skyrocket otherwise mediocre decks into the very top tier. Remember light sworn with 3 charge of the light brigade? Remember zombies with 3 mezuki? TeleDAD with 3 emergency teleport, destiny draw, AND malicious? Sometimes Konami prints cards that simply aren't healthy for the game, and sometimes you can simply (semi) limit them, and they're balanced, as in the case of Destiny Hero - Malicious, but other times they need to go to 0, like BLS-EotB. The cards I mentioned with the possible exclusion of Gorz and maybe even Dark Hole (less willing to say this one), the rest of the cards are hiddeously over powered and create game winning situations far too easily, and thusly should be banned.

SirFunchalot wrote:

Almost every single top tier deck runs Gorz, Dark Hole, Reborn, Brionac, Mind Control, and Trishula, and almost any of those cards can instantly give that deck a win after being played.

This statement is false.