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PostSubject: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 22, 2011 1:42 am

First topic message reminder :

judges wrote:
This has been discussed several times in this forum. Because OCG rulings are not official in the TCG, there are no TCG rulings for Xyz Summons at all and in the interest of maintaining consistency with an official source, the well-seasoned judges (aka those judges that are typically Team Leads and HJs at the Premier Events in the U.S.) are currently ruling that if Reborn Tengu is used as Xyz Material, the effect of Reborn Tengu will still activate.

This is not because we disagree or agree with the OCG rulings on Xyz Summons, contrary to what some may think - this is because judges in TCG territories should rule, ultimately, in the perspective of the TCG, not the OCG. In that vein, we then rule in that perspective to maintain consistency in our events, at least, until the article is either clarified or else official rulings are passed down from R&D regarding Xyz Summon mechanics.

So, as long as there is no XYZ rulings in TCG go use Tengu's effect while XYZ summoning! XD
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 24, 2011 11:28 pm

damn you SK....RAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 25, 2011 12:17 am

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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 25, 2011 5:34 am

Thank God Tengu is not that broken Razz
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 25, 2011 11:30 am

fuk *exclamation mark*
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 25, 2011 8:14 pm

If it has gone like that then, close this up Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 26, 2011 10:10 pm

yay. this pleases me haha
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 2:31 am

Ok just wanted to pist off some guyz here :S

Judges are letting the tengu shiz pass XD E verybody was abusing of tengu Utopia yesterday and Mostof the judges i USA too agree that Tengu leaves the field so ... Yeah

5 words for you guys : TENGU IS JUST THAT BROKEN !
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 3:23 am

YEA FUCK YE ALL BITCHES!!! What did i say before huh? HUH!!!?? xDD
my deck'zz gonna pwn with Xceeding my field hahaha
no need for the damn gadgets in my deck with no gadget tactics <.<

@SupremeKing: There ya go tengu hater!!! Face the truth and next time ima pwn u with TENGU SHIZZZ hahaha

ok no offense in my post btw, im just happy cuz my deck is good then XD
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 4:04 am

So I guess tengu remains immortal?

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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 7:00 am

i will never allow it!!! i will fight to the death for what i think is right!!! rage!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 7:01 am

Lol Johnboi locals will be the only place in the world were Frosteh will never want to play XD
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 7:05 am

Lol i actually have to let it go unfortunately =b

all of the well seasoned judges came to an agreement that until R&D comes to a decision on it then we will rule that it works, so i can't really do anything about it haha
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 7:45 am

Scorpion67 wrote:
Lol Johnboi locals will be the only place in the world were Frosteh will never want to play XD

If tengu is allowed there, why would I NOT want to play, too many tengu noobs?
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 12:32 pm

no its because i said that i didn't want tengu to work with Xyz summons, and i judge at my locals. so he's saying you probably won't like it there lol
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 2:41 pm

Oh I see.....well if I did go there, tengu would reign supreme. Speaking of supreme, where's SK, need to tell him the good news Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptySun Jul 31, 2011 2:42 pm

Lol he is probably crying and making a voodoo dol of tengu and hitting it hard Razz
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyMon Aug 01, 2011 8:39 pm

Finally I guessed my pass and what I can say is that judges are noobs. What the boss of TCG says IS THE OFFICIAL RULING FFS!
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyMon Aug 01, 2011 8:51 pm

Okay, sorry for the double post, but to clear it up(until we have official rulings): http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=975422&page=2

Tengu activates when detached.
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyMon Aug 01, 2011 9:04 pm

man im too lazy to read all that, can you just post his quote here?
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyTue Aug 02, 2011 12:06 am

SK post it here, cuz I can't view pojo D:
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyTue Aug 02, 2011 12:10 am

Originally Posted by OP
Hm. How come if you have a Reborn Tengu and a Plaguespreader Zombie (previously revived by his effect) as xyz materials (hypothetically, of course) and they get detached you can search a Tengu but the PSZ is not removed from game? And how about Absolute Zero? Why is that? what's the explanation for these when they all have the same wording?

Originally Posted by Kevin
In [OP's] original example, Tengu was on the field. Now it's not. Nor was it shuffled into the Deck.

Therefore, it left the field. Unless you want to explain to me how a card leaves the field without actually leaving the field.....

As I said, the definition of "leaves the field" is under review, regarding Xyz monsters.

Originally Posted by Me
Kevin, I'll ask you a different question. Let's say that you were having a Duel with Julia on this very day. She had Wall of Ivy and Gravity Bind on her side of the field, and you had Reborn Tengu and Dark Rabbit on yours. Without any way to attack, you use your two monsters for the Xyz Summon of Number 39: Utopia. How would you proceed next?

Originally Posted by Kevin
I'd enter the Battle Phase and attack.
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyTue Aug 02, 2011 12:29 am

Yes SK we saw that, but looks like Kevin Arguments was not strong enough. The Tengu eff WORKS in all the TCG LOCALS so no matter what you will say, TENGU IS JUST THAT BROKEN Wink
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyTue Aug 02, 2011 12:34 am

No matter what you say scorp, Tengu does work, but WHEN DETACHED.
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyTue Aug 02, 2011 12:42 am

They should change the effect to:

When this card is removed from the field, except for a XYZ-summon, Special Summon 1 Reborn Tengu from your deck


xD
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PostSubject: Re: LOL TCG    LOL TCG     - Page 2 EmptyTue Aug 02, 2011 1:45 am

Quote :
Originally Posted by Kevin
In [OP's] original example, Tengu was on the field. Now it's not. Nor was it shuffled into the Deck.

Therefore,
it left the field. Unless you want to explain to me how a card leaves
the field without actually leaving the field.....

exactly what would i ask you SK when you said about machina fortress and stuff...
Tengu LEAVES THE FIELD when used as material. Therefore it gets eff Razz
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