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Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: ... And then it hit me Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:45 pm | |
| If someone walked up and gave me $1000 i would make this deck https://imgur.com/iPxcs2x Alexandrite dragons 2x blazing inpatchi 2x Caius 2x Effect Veiler 3x Genex ally birdman 2x Gigaplant 1x lonefire 2x Maxx "C" 3x Reborn Tengu 2x Rescue rabbit 1x Sangan 3x Tour guide 2x Tytannial 1x Heavy storm 1x Monster reborn 2x Pot of duality 3x Dark bribe 2x Magic cylinder 1x Mirror Force 1x Sakuretsu armor 2x Trap stun This deck started out as a chaos plants deck but i tweaked it majorly. Plants are still the main engine but the rest has changed drastically. Why? It just works better. Especially with steelswarm roach in my extra. Its a bit unconventional but sometimes thats what this game needs in my humble oppinion. Try it out and let me know what you think | |
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Exiled
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-01-02
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:54 pm | |
| Take out cylenders, sakuetsu and dark bribe's
Add D Prison's, Solemn brigade and trap dustshoot
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NotSoGallantGallade Absol
Posts : 550 Join date : 2011-09-13 Age : 29 Location : U.S.
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:20 am | |
| Aaaaaaand unlocked. And bumped. So +2. | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:14 pm | |
| When running rescue rabbit, never run less than 3 copies of rabbit and his normal monster targets. If you draw 1 of the normal mons you can not get the other one with rabbit unless there is another one with the same name in the deck. | |
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Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:19 pm | |
| Ya ive heard that before. I think I just took him out because it kinda slowed the deck down a little. I added a spore a dandy and a bus. I need 2 more cards though as I still have the darkflare soldiers to make it 40 and they just dont work at all lol | |
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gutsberserk Berserk
Posts : 686 Join date : 2012-02-08 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:31 pm | |
| This deck looks freaking terrible. You run so many suboptimal choices , I don't even know where to start.
Why in the hell would you run Rabbit and some shitty Vanillas in a Plant Deck? You're sacrificing consistency to play what? Steelswarm Roach? Roach is mediocre at best , because he can be easily run over and can't stop Xyzs.
Tytannial shouldn't be run in Plants anymore because Dandy and Lonefire are at one. What if you draw into Tytannial or Gigaplant? They're horrible dead draws...
Your spell line up is bad too. No MST, no Dark Hole, no Foolish Burial , no Book of Moon, no Pot of Avarice , the list goes on.
Also, the traps are supposed to be a joke , right?
Seriously, start from scratch man. I don't run Plants as my main deck but If I did i would run something like this:
Monsters 22:
3 Tour Guide from the Underworld 3 Reborn Tengu 3 Maxx "C" 2 Effect Veiler 2 Spirit Reaper 2 Thunder King Rai-Oh 1 Lonefire Blossom 1 Glow Up Bulb 1 Dandylion 1 Spore 1 Sangan 1 Gorz , the Emissary of Darkness 1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Spells 12:
2 Mystical Space Typhoon 2 Enemy Controller 1 Heavy Storm 1 Dark Hole 1 Book of Moon 1 Pot of Avarice 1 Monster Reborn 1 Foolish Burial 1 One for One 1 Mind Control
Traps 7:
2 Fiendish Chain 2 Solemn Warning 1 Solemn Judgment 1 Torrential Tribute 1 Trap Dustshoot
Extra Deck 15:
1 Leviair 1 Leviathan 1 Scrap Dragon 1 Stardust Dragon 1 Brionac 1 Trishula 1 Hyper Librarian 1 Armory Arm 1 Formula Synchron 1 Utopia 1 Catastor 1 Zenmaines 1 Ancient Fairy Dragon 1 Black Rose Dragon 1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon
Don't make suboptimal choices and say that they work better, because they don't. Being original is fine as long as you remember that the goal of the deck is to win.
If you have any questions feel free to ask. I don't like how people sugar coat everything when they clearly see that the deck is garbage.
Edit : Don't take it offensively, I'm trashing the deck ,not you. I'm trying to help and I think this is the best and fastest way to do it. | |
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Snilly
Posts : 248 Join date : 2012-01-12
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:53 am | |
| This deck is just a mess of bleh. It looks like you took some expensive cards and just put them in a deck along with some other commons. P: | |
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Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:25 am | |
| Lol I appriceate it. But if I draw a tytannial I will just special summon it next turn with gigaplant. I will work on it though. I knoa its not perfect thats why I posted it here. But its also not completly inconsistant either. | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:36 am | |
| His point (which is completely right btw), is how are you planning on summoning Gigaplant in the first place? Summon something, hope it doesn't die, tribute it to normal summon Gigaplant, hope it doesn't die that turn, and then normal summon it again so you can plus? That's very, very slow. Lonefire? It's at 1, and while you're waiting to draw it you'll be drawing Gigaplants and Tyrannials all over the place, not to mention normal monsters which have no synergy here | |
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Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:40 am | |
| Ya you have a point. I took the rabbit and normal monsters out. But I get what your saying. I will change it. But I dont want a normal chaos deck. Any suggestions? My original idea was chaos burning plants(hence the fire normal monsters) but it didnt work so I took them out. | |
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Quote Moderator
Posts : 503 Join date : 2011-08-28 Age : 31 Location : Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:14 am | |
| If you seriously want to keep Gigaplant and Tytannial as the core of your deck, then build a Gigavise deck, because this now is just silly. | |
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gutsberserk Berserk
Posts : 686 Join date : 2012-02-08 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:53 am | |
| - Dragonslayer9800 wrote:
- But I dont want a normal chaos deck. Any suggestions? My original idea was chaos burning plants(hence the fire normal monsters)
Why do you want to mix them fire monsters? And why do you want to be original? Also, idk if Gigavise is still viable because Lonefire is at 1 , Colossal Armory Combo doesn't work anymore and I think there's too much stuff that can stop the combos... but I might be mistaken. | |
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Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:01 am | |
| Mostly to be more original. And I just dont like how people find a deck that works online and just copy it to the letter or make very small changes to it. There are over 2,000 different cards but people cant see past the few that they think are good. Gigavise is okay still. Lonefire getting limited was inevitable but gigaplant is still a lv 6 I believe so hes not impossible to get out. | |
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Quincy99
Posts : 642 Join date : 2011-03-05 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:12 am | |
| Its possible to be original, but if your running a Meta deck which is tried and true to be effective. There is no point in watering down a deck that is already at its apex in explosive plays to appease you crazy hybrid idea....To an extent.
Thats not to say you cant build a deck that takes advantage of your playstyle. You wanna build a plant deck, then focus on that aspect and make a deck that appeases your playstyle and can be competitive, thats where your originality will shine.
Just like all decks that get hit by the list, if it gets weaker than find techs that can compensate for its loss. look at Sams, they lost smoke signal, now Ascentism is a damn near staple. Its all about you doing the hard work and seeing how you can make a deck YOU created effective | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:20 am | |
| - gutsberserk wrote:
- And why do you want to be original?
Cuz being original is cool. There's a huge difference between playing competitively and playing meta. There are lots of competitive ideas, but only a few that everyone uses. But you still can't use sucky cards. EVER. that also goes for cards that have no synergy with one another. that's all we're saying. | |
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Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:01 am | |
| I wasnt aware that I was arguing. Rater I was merely answering a question. I know and I have stated that you have a valid point and I will change it. Thanks for all the feedback. | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:42 am | |
| I didn't say you were arguing . and you're welcome, for what it's worth | |
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gutsberserk Berserk
Posts : 686 Join date : 2012-02-08 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:39 pm | |
| - Harper7000 wrote:
- gutsberserk wrote:
- And why do you want to be original?
Cuz being original is cool. There's a huge difference between playing competitively and playing meta. There are lots of competitive ideas, but only a few that everyone uses. But you still can't use sucky cards. EVER. that also goes for cards that have no synergy with one another. that's all we're saying. The terms " playing meta " and "meta deck " are messed up because technically every deck is part of the meta , not just top tier decks. Anyways, it's cool if an advanced player takes a Tier 2 strategy like Ninja or Samurai ,tries to make it viable and catches people off-guard. But that's because you're advanced. You know the biggest threats in the metagame , you know how to build a deck ,you know which cards are good or bad. Newbies and "originalists" don't know shit. He avoids the most popular strategies from the start and tries to build his own deck while he doesn't even know how a good deck is constructed. It's a given that he will fail. I never said that being original is bad. Being original for idiotic reasons is bad. I don't get why someone would put in vanilla fire monsters in a Plant Deck , just to call it fire plant so that the deck is different from the others. That's why I wanted him to answer the question. | |
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Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:56 pm | |
| Haha ive built many good decks for your information. This one just didnt go so well. I look at it as a way to learn. But just saying it is idiotic is a mistake on your part. Its not like I made a deck ou of 40 man eater bugs or something like that. And I took out the rabbit and fire monsters before anyone suggested they were slowing it down. When I posted this deck it was 4 and 0 so it was doing well for the first few games. I know its not the best deck or mabey even ideal but im willing to work on it which is why I was being a good sport about the comments. Yes I might be a newer player but that doesnt mean that I dont know anything. Thank you for your comment and I believe I answered your question in my previous post | |
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gutsberserk Berserk
Posts : 686 Join date : 2012-02-08 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:16 pm | |
| I can't imagine how the original deck could 4-0 against good players with good decks. I didn't mean to say that you don't know anything , sorry for my manner of expression.lol
It's just that most new players try to build their own deck before they even touched the top tier strategies. You have to have a basic understanding about how the game works in order to create something original, yet powerful. And you won't have that basic understanding if you don't know how the most popular decks in the format work, how they are constructed , they're strenghts and weaknesses,etc.
That's what I wanted to say.lol
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Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:17 pm | |
| Haha its cool. I understand. | |
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gradyent
Posts : 116 Join date : 2011-11-22 Age : 36 Location : Staring at the Gates of Dark World, being escorted by Kushano and Grimro
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sat Feb 11, 2012 11:23 pm | |
| man i gotta say i tried it out on dn and this deck was pretty solid for me i pilotted it for 5 games and pulled 4-1 with it, and the only reason it wasnt 5-0 is because i misplayed on it in the first game but afterwards, like the barbers here in afghanistan say after razor blading all your hair away...
"Suh-moov like bay-be a$$..." | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:40 am | |
| Beating DN scrubs isn't much of an accomplishment tbh though. I've won many matches with a shitty mazera deville deck, it doesn't mean mazera deville is actually viable though. | |
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gradyent
Posts : 116 Join date : 2011-11-22 Age : 36 Location : Staring at the Gates of Dark World, being escorted by Kushano and Grimro
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:16 am | |
| so where can i find some top players and the like to playtest against...? | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: ... And then it hit me Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:35 am | |
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