| Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) | |
|
+6Dragonslayer9800 Harper7000 SirFunchalot Quote darkness evil Princess Hyakka 10 posters |
|
Author | Message |
---|
Princess Hyakka OCG/Casual Deck Builder
Posts : 504 Join date : 2011-11-29 Age : 35 Location : Osaka,Japan
| Subject: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:20 pm | |
| Monster's(21) 1 Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning 1 Caius the Shadow Monarch 1 Chaos Sorcerer 2 Cyber Dragon 2 Dimensional Alchemist 2 Effect Veiler 1 Glow-Up Bulb 2 Krebons 1 Plaguespreader Zombie 3 Reborn Tengu 1 Sangan 2 Spirit Reaper 2 Thunder King Rai-Oh Spell's(12) 1 Book of Moon 1 Dark Hole 1 Foolish Burial 1 Heavy Storm 1 Mind Control 1 Monster Reborn 2 Mystical Space Typhoon 1 Pot of Avarice 2 Pot of Duality 1 Scapegoat Trap's( 1 Dimensional Prison 1 Mirror Force 1 Solemn Judgment 2 Solemn Warning 1 Starlight Road 1 Torrential Tribute 1 Trap Dustshoot Extra's(15) 1 Armory Arm 1 Black Rose Dragon 1 Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier 1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon 1 Colossal Fighter 1 Formula Synchron 1 Leviair the Sea Dragon 1 Magical Android 1 Number 39: Utopia 1 Orient Dragon 1 Scrap Archfiend 1 Scrap Dragon 1 Stardust Dragon 1 T.G. Hyper Librarian 1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier | |
|
| |
darkness evil
Posts : 288 Join date : 2011-05-19
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:28 pm | |
| id take out the 2 krebons for 2 Max "C", its a must this format take out Bulb and Plague for 2 Battle faders take out 3 reborn Tengu for 3 tourguied | |
|
| |
Quote Moderator
Posts : 503 Join date : 2011-08-28 Age : 31 Location : Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:13 am | |
| From the looks of this deck, it honestly seems to be leaning towards general Chaos, rather than Chaos Stun. While this deck could probably play well, it's not really going to be slowing down your opponent any, which is the main goal here. If this deck is gonna play like Stun, it needs Stun elements. Banisher of the Radiance, Kycoo, Doomcal, and D.D. Warrior Lady. Hell, even Scorp put in D.D. Warrior Ladies after I played him recently.
Also, your Trap line-up isn't very menacing to me. For some reason, TCG players are too scared of priority and a few smaller monsters to main Bottomless. I will admit that it's not really needed if you run smaller trap Line-ups, but in this case, you should embrace your traps. You want people to fear your backrow, so give them a reason to fear it.
Use Zenmaines and Lavalval Chain. They're amazing. | |
|
| |
SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:14 am | |
| Main Deck: -2 Cyber Dragon -2 Dimensional Alchemist -1 Glow-Up Bulb -2 Krebons -1 Caius the Shadow Monarch -1 Chaos Sorcerer -1 Sangan -1 Plaguespreader Zombie -2 Spirit Reaper
-1 Foolish Burial -1 Scapegoat -1 Mind Control -1 Heavy Storm
+3 Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo +2 T.G. Striker +2 T.G. Rush Rhino +2 T.G. Warwolf +2 Maxx "C" +1 Thunder King Rai-Oh
+2 Horn of the Phantom Beast +1 Dimensional Prison +1 TG1-EM1
Extra Deck: -1 Armory Arm -1 Chimeratech Fortress Dragon -1 Colossal Fighter -1 Magical Android -1 Orient Dragon -1 Scrap Archfiend
+1 Ally of Justice Catastor +1 Naturia Barkion +1 T.G. Wonder Magician +1 Lavalval Chain +1 Daigusto Emeral +1 Steelswarm Roach
Side Deck:15 1 Heavy Storm 1 One for One 1 Mind Control 1 Foolish Burial 1 Dandylion 1 Glow-Up Bulb 1 Lonefire Blossom 1 Spore 3 Tourguide of the Underworld 1 Sangan 1 Number 17: Leviathan Dragon 1 Armory Arm 1 Shooting Quasar Dragon
The style of deck used in the main will typically persuade your opponent to take out their Effect Veilers and Maxx "C"s and side in cards they usually do against defensive decks for game 2, meanwhile you're transitioning into Tourguide Tengu Plants, and will have a much easier time exploding in their face. STUN is one of the hardest matchups game 1 for a lot of top tier decks, and being unprepared for plants by not having Maxx "C" and Veiler is also a very difficult match. This deck easily 2-0s people making it great for big events where you want good tie breakers. | |
|
| |
Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:09 am | |
| yeah it looks more like Waller Chaos than Chaos Stun. Waller Chaos is good too but it's not stun haha. there's LOTS of different Chaos builds though. i could give you lots of different builds. also pretty much anything can run BLS... | |
|
| |
Princess Hyakka OCG/Casual Deck Builder
Posts : 504 Join date : 2011-11-29 Age : 35 Location : Osaka,Japan
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:29 pm | |
| lol can u do that please | |
|
| |
Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:11 pm | |
| well i'm not going to throw 50 decks at you lol. pick which style you want | |
|
| |
Princess Hyakka OCG/Casual Deck Builder
Posts : 504 Join date : 2011-11-29 Age : 35 Location : Osaka,Japan
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:16 pm | |
| lol i like the stun 1 better thanks guys foe helping me | |
|
| |
darkness evil
Posts : 288 Join date : 2011-05-19
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:05 pm | |
| | |
|
| |
Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:59 am | |
| De's is a good start. Doomcaliber>Veiler here though so -1 Veiler and +1 Doom. 3 Rai-Oh and 3 Doomcaliber is always my core for Chaos Stun. The 2-3 Maxx is a good idea for stun as they can take advantage of it the most. I don't personally like tour guide in stun. If you take the engine out -3 TGU and -1 Sangan for other good stuff like the third duality, dd warrior ladies, Starlight Road, Mind Control, etc. | |
|
| |
Princess Hyakka OCG/Casual Deck Builder
Posts : 504 Join date : 2011-11-29 Age : 35 Location : Osaka,Japan
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:00 am | |
| thanks har[er but go on PM i sent u a msg i would like you to read | |
|
| |
Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:34 pm | |
| I also like siding in dark bribes just so you can get over their heavy and a MST. Once they fear your backrow then they will try to get rid of it | |
|
| |
Exiled
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-01-02
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:15 am | |
| Dark Bribe in itself is bad as it is a -1, the only time it is good is when you are playing Malefics or something that relies a lot on a spell/trap. Chaos Stun doesn't. | |
|
| |
Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:30 am | |
| Ya but the whole part of the chaos stun is stun. Your spell/ trap cards are essential. Id rather let them +1 and waste their heavy then let them get a warning or mirror force/ d prision or something else useful. Especially since you can dark bribe then play dustshoot. | |
|
| |
Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:22 am | |
| Exiled's point is this: Heavy Storm is hurtful to Malefics and stun. With Malefics, you sometimes NEED that Skill Drain or field spell, and can't allow it to get mst'd. With stun...ok, so they pop a trap your were hoping to use. So? You didn't minus, and if you used Bribe to stop mst, you WOULD minus. Which means really, the only thing you need to worry about stopping is Heavy. So use Starlight instead, so you can plus off of them using heavy instead of misusing yourself by stopping Heavy | |
|
| |
Exiled
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-01-02
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:26 am | |
| | |
|
| |
LegendaryFrost
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2010-05-26 Age : 29 Location : Somewhere in Africa
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:52 am | |
| Not only is bribe bad, but it is one of those cards that can be useless, and even worse....a miracle top-deck. Starlight is waaaay better at 1 in any stun deck, cuz when u set that large amt of cards they will naturally want to clear the whole field. Also Road can be used vs anything that hits 2 or more of ur cards, Bribe -1 you for negating a single spell/trap(not very helpful at all in stuns, esp since u ain't supposed to swarm). | |
|
| |
Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:24 am | |
| I understand your point but you can dark bribe a starlight road but you cant starlight road a dark bribe. I look at it this way. Your not really loosing out letting them +1 when you use trap dustshoot. When you use starlight road you might be able to get a stardust but you can only use its effect once. The whole point of a chaos stun deck is the fact that you will be able to controll the feild. Im sorry but if you are running a chaos stun and cant controll the feild then your deck simply needs work. Dustshoot is better than starlight in a stun deck because you can stop their cards from hitting the feild and not waste your warnings. Im afraid that people just blurt out cards that are good without considering other possibilities. This becomes more than problematic when you go to tournies and between 6 chaos stun decks about 2 cards are different. Dark bribe isnt nearly as bad as some people claim it to be. Besides I was suggesting siding it so you dont even have to use it if you know that it wont do good against your opponents deck. | |
|
| |
Quote Moderator
Posts : 503 Join date : 2011-08-28 Age : 31 Location : Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:01 pm | |
| There are so many things wrong with what you wrote, I've moved past laughing and am now just disappointed.
1. If someone Dark Bribes your SLR, they just used 2 cards to kill your probable 2, and you still come out with a +1 because Bribe is bad.
2. Dustshoot is honestly irrelevant in this argument. Just use both, because you have no reason not to. That's like saying you should run Warning instead of MST, lol.
3. Chaos Stun isn't Tier 1, so you should never expect to see a large number of them in any event. Also, Chaos Stun decks ate run however the player feels it should be run, and they are typically quite different.
4. If I feel that I have to main/side Dark Bribe, it means my deck isn't doing its job.
Do you even use Chaos Stun? I'd like to see your deck. | |
|
| |
Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:41 pm | |
| Different people have different play styles. Thats why kunami makes more than 50 different cards. It allows people to show individuality. However these days if somebody makes a deck that works well then everybody abuses it. Your second counter argument makes no sence at all. They are in no way related. Look you are intitled to your oppinion and im intitled to mine. I was simply making a suggestion. My point still remins however. The deck above already uses dustshoot so thats the reason I even brought it up to point out a possible combo. Lastly, and in closing just because your opponent draws a card doesnt mean you should jump off a bridge in dissapointment. After all they do that every turn anyways im not claiming that bribe is the best card there is in the game. But simply stating that people can play around starlight but who is honestly going to try to negate a dark bribe?? Nobody. They are going to get all caught up in ooohhhh I get to draw a card yay!!! Even if they do somehow get a good card on the feild miraculously after drawing 1 card you can usually just destoy it anyways with oh idk mabey a caius. | |
|
| |
Exiled
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-01-02
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:42 pm | |
| Thankyou for savingme the typing time Sk | |
|
| |
Dragonslayer9800
Posts : 94 Join date : 2011-11-26 Age : 30
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:23 pm | |
| @VioletSk227 Here is my chaos stun deck. I have made it on DN but it is the same cards i use in real life with the exception of glow-up. This deck works well and is hopefully more original than other chaos stun decks.My sides are pretty much aimed at anti-meta in order to give me the continued upper had during duel 2. Hope you like it and see what i mean. You are more than welcome to try it out and see how it runs for you. https://imgur.com/tX5Ku | |
|
| |
Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:06 pm | |
| No offense man, but I think you're missing the point of "stun" | |
|
| |
Princess Hyakka OCG/Casual Deck Builder
Posts : 504 Join date : 2011-11-29 Age : 35 Location : Osaka,Japan
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:33 pm | |
| i see but when do i activate it? but wat if i missplay or misstiming | |
|
| |
Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:44 pm | |
| | |
|
| |
Sponsored content
| Subject: Re: Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) | |
| |
|
| |
| Chaos Stun Deck (COMMENTS OR CONCERNS) | |
|