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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Harper's Blackwings Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:44 am | |
| Blackwings (40) Monsters: (18) 1x Broken Armed Dragon 1x Gorz, The Game Changer 1x Neo-Spacian Extra Deck Hater 1x Blackwing - Gale The Stardust's Ass Kicking Whirlwind 1x Blackwing - Kalut The Honest Wannabe 3x Blackwing - Blizzard The Veiler Magnet 3x Blackwing - Bora The Dandy Raper 3x Blackwing - Shura The Flamvell Firedog 1x Blackwing - Vayu The Solemn Dodger 1x Blackwing - Sirocco The T-King Destroyer 2x Thunder King Rai-Oh Spells: (10) 1x Monster Reborn 1x Dark Hole 1x Heavy Format-Defining Storm 1x Mind Control 1x Black Whirlwind 1x Allure of Darkness 1x Book of Moon 2x Pot of Consistancy 1x Mystical Space Typhoon Traps: (12) 1x Mirror Force 1x Torrential Tribute 1x Trap Dustshoot 1x God 2x Jesus 2x Bottomless Trap Hole 3x Icarus Attack 1x Starlight Road Extra: (15) 1x Ally of Justice Agent Killer 1x Trishula, Dragon of Sacking 1x Stardust Dragon 1x Scrap Dragon 1x Blackwing - Silverwind The Blackwing Whose Effect Is Never Used 1x Black Nuking Dragon 1x Blackwing Armor Master 1x Brionac, Dragon of OTKs 1x Gaia Knight, The Random Beatstick 1x Orient Dragon 1x Blackwing Vayu's Big Brother 1x Ally of Justice Catastor 1x T.G. Hyper Librarian 1x Number 39 - Utopia 1x Steelswarm Roach Side: (15) 3x Maxx "C" 2x Skill Drain 2x Macro Cosmos 2x Smashing Ground 2x Cyber Dragon 2x Kycoo The Ghost Destroyer 1x Mystical Space Typhoon 1x Chimeratech Fortress Dragon https://imgur.com/1TSxqWell, Blackwings have always been a deck that I always update to new formats but rarely play. I dueled Vongola's version of BW this format a month or 2 ago, and liked it. Right now I'm trying to find a new main deck. Plants, as many of you know, have been my thing since before QuickDraw Dandywarrior. But I don't know...it seems less fun these days. More derpy, less skill and less fun to play. And less consistant with drawing too many Tengus and Tour Guides. I would rather have my extra Debris and Dandys and Lonefiees and Tengu can just get limited for all I care. Anyway...going on a rant. I'm trying to find something consistent. That's my main concern. Screw those derpy decks like DW that rely too much on luck. Blackwings are consistent, fun to play, are able to have good backrow, but don't rely on backrow. And let's not forget that both Vongola and DE are topping YCS DGA with Blackwings...De just beat me with them. So I'm trying them. This build is working ok, but I'm not sure about the monster lineup. Should I main Thunder kings like I want to? Should I main Veilers too and BLS while I'm at it? Less Shura? More Sirocco? Less Vayu? I could go 20, sure, but the rest of the deck is kinda airtight really. Suggestions please!
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Vongola-x Owner
Posts : 2269 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 33 Location : United Kingdom
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:05 am | |
| - trunade - call (you already have reborn, don't overdo)
+ mind + road or 2 prisons (41 isn't that much)
- 1 armor master + thought ruler or trishula
might consider gozen match into side | |
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j0hnb0i Admin
Posts : 1331 Join date : 2010-05-26 Age : 34 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:03 am | |
| i was thinking maybe another black rose dragon if you could haha. blackwings were pretty good when black rose was unlimited. but then again that was when gale was at 3 haha. probably not the best suggestion but yea =b haha | |
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Scorpion67 Drunken Master
Posts : 1948 Join date : 2010-05-23 Age : 39 Location : Montreal, Canada
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:34 am | |
| Blackwings are surprisely pretty popular in this format let me help you a bit with this deck - 1 MST ( you have 3 Icarus ) - 1 Trunade - 1 MBAAS - 1 TT - 1 Trapdust Shoot ( not good in this format ) + 1 Deck Devastation Virus ( and 1 other in side for round 2, it kills consecrated light and makes you win ) + 1 Seven Tools Of The Bandit + 1 Delta Crow anti Reverse + 2 Solemn Warning Thats how my friend is running blackwings at locals and he is kicking big buts with it ! | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:03 am | |
| Vongola: thanks , that was helpful. Call WAS overdoing it, it was dead most of the time, and honestly there's just better traps to run this format. I think scorp is right about trap dustshoot though, I tried it and it just doesn't work too well this format. John: believe me, I love spamming blackrose haha. But you're right, there's just not enough room to add another one and I don't need to blow up the field all that much. Thanks though scorpion: I think I agree mostly, but really? Deck devastating virus over torrential tribute? I think the only targets to tribute would be sirocco and synchros. But idk, I haven't tested it yet. I'll try it though, I'll switch ddv and tt in and out with each other to see which is better. Also, seven tools IS surprisingly good this format, but don't you think trap stun is more versatile and widespread? It also doesn't require paying life points, so the only upside to seven tools is that it can negate the solemn duo. Tell me if I'm wrong though. So, taking all suggestions into account, it looks a litlte something like this: Blackwing 4.0 (40) Monsters: (19) Blackwing - sirroco the dawn x3 Blackwing - vayu the emblem of honor x2 Blackwing - blizzard the far north x2 Blackwing - shura the blue flame x3 Blackwing - bora the spear x3 Blackwing - gale the whirlwind Blackwing - kalut the moon shadow x3 Dark armed dragon Gorz the emmisary of darkness Spells: ( Monster reborn Mystical space typhoon Dark hole Book of moon x2 Black whirlwind Allure of darkness Mind control Traps: (13) Mirror force Bottomless trap hole x2 Torrential tribute Solemn judgement Solemn warning x2 Icarus attack x3 Royal oppression Delta crow - anti reverse Trap stun Extra: (15) Mist wurm Stardust dragon Colossal fighter Dark end dragon Red dragon archfiend Blackwing - silverwind the ascendant Black rose dragon Blackwing armor master x2 Brionac dragon of the ice barrier Goyo guardian Blackwing armed wing x2 Ally of justice catastor Magical android Side: (15) Gottom's e-call (anti-x-saber) x2 Nobleman of crossout (anti-flip) x2 Swallow flip (anti-effect) x2 D.d. Crow (anti-graveyard) x2 System down (anti-machine) x2 Trap hole (anti-bw) x2 Gozen match (anti-variety) x2 Deck devastation virus Other possible cards: Cards for black feathers Pot of duality Giant trunade Starlight road Dimensional prison x2 Seven tools of the bandit what do you think? | |
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nica89
Posts : 101 Join date : 2010-11-28 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:21 pm | |
| im the one who play bw the same local whit scorpion lol; yes deck devastation virus is soo a pro card,yes you right about sirico and synchro monster can only do that for 2000 and more, but Me i always tribute whit one of my low blackwing ,vayu is my best card and favorite bw lol,cauz i always but him face up ,and they always say, ok the attak passe, then damage step lol 2200 whit kalut then tribute it for ddv. your openent going to cry, trust me 1 deck devastation virus on main deck is very good againt plants deck or many deck who play alot whit low monster, and the good thing too you can see his hand , soo you can predict his movement, and delta crow is a good card againt face down trap et spell card since heavy storm has been ban. | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:42 pm | |
| O_o I totally hadn't thought of that combo with Kalut. That makes DDV so much more mainable...I see now. I've updated the deck since my last post quite a bit. It works amazing, I just wish I had room for Seven Tools or possibly a third Pot/Cards For Blak Feathers (and now a mained DDV). Here's the latest build: Blackwing (40) Monsters: (19) Blackwing - Sirroco The Dawn x3 Blackwing - Vayu The Emblem Of Honor x2 Blackwing - Blizzard The Far North x3 Blackwing - Shura The Blue Flame x3 Blackwing - Bora The Spear x3 Blackwing - Kalut The Moon Shadow x3 Blackwing - Gale The Whirlwind Dark Armed Dragon Spells: (10) Monster Reborn Dark Hole Mystical Space Typhoon x2 Book Of Moon x2 Black Whirlwind Allure of Darkness Pot Of Duality x2 Traps: (11) Mirror Force Bottomless Trap Hole x2 Solemn Judgement Solemn Warning x2 Icarus Attack x3 Royal Oppression Delta Crow - Anti Reverse Extra: (15) Trishula Dragon Of The Ice Barrier Stardust Dragon Colossal Fighter Dark End Dragon Blackwing - Silverwind The Ascendant Black Rose Dragon Blackwing Armor Master x2 Brionac Dragon Of The Ice Barrier Goyo Guardian Blackwing Armed Wing x2 Ally Of Justice Catastor Magical Android Chimeratech Fortress Dragon idk, maybe drop an MST or two? I have Delta Crow and Icarus I guess so it's not quite so needed. I just hate running into Decree builds with 13 traps | |
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nica89
Posts : 101 Join date : 2010-11-28 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:05 pm | |
| harper i use only 1 mst,the second one you can put it in side deck for decree , i dont like your solemn judgment,and 2 bth, you have already 2 warning ,1 bth is enought lol, here my opinion -1 mst( secon one in side deck) -1 1bth -1 solemn judgement +1ddv +1seven tools fo bandit +1 torrentiel tribute
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nica89
Posts : 101 Join date : 2010-11-28 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:43 pm | |
| 1 more thing i have to say before going to bed i was thinking about a card that can help blackwing, Blackwing - Breeze the Zephyr this card can easily get amor master via shura,or get to your hand via any ways has been search then special summon right now ( sagan,mystic tomato,black whirldwind) the counter part of this card you dont want to draw him If you draw him,just feed it to allure of darnkess or card for black feather, or just set for a icarus attack i will try this card next saturday at my local,but im sure he will be usefull cauz gale is limit a 1, soo is hard to make level7 amor master and you dont want to waste gale for amor master,soo zephyr is a good choise,even if your amor master get destroyed,yon dont care,cauz you cant remove it whit vayu for a silverwind as back up i hope i help you a lot BlackWing for the win | |
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Scorpion67 Drunken Master
Posts : 1948 Join date : 2010-05-23 Age : 39 Location : Montreal, Canada
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:22 am | |
| Dont you remember what hapenbed the last time you tried zephyr in blackwings, you drew it in every match and Alex and I told you '' THATS WHY WE DONT PLAY BAD CARDS ''
And dont double post again, Edit your post or waith for someone to post after you to post again. | |
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nica89
Posts : 101 Join date : 2010-11-28 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:35 am | |
| i know sorry, but i know is always in my hand but now,i will feed it to allure and card for feather or searh it first whit shura,remember during this time i dint have card for black feather, i never use it to feed it to icarus attack,remember that during the time i starte playing local,now i have a little experience since summer,so they have many option whit this card specialy if you play 2 card for feather that will be soo cool lol | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:13 am | |
| Thanks for the help . I think it's nearing perfection...11 traps is good. It still uses Blackwings' best traps but doesn't get totally crippled by Decree. I REALLY like Judgement though, I'd hate o drop it...but I'll test it your way and see . +1 rep to you and everyone else who tried to help with this EDIT: and yeah...sorry to say but Breeze really does suck :/. It was usable last format with 2 BWW but it's usually a dead draw I've found. Believe me, I tried it...spamming Armor Master is just too fun | |
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nica89
Posts : 101 Join date : 2010-11-28 Age : 35
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:18 am | |
| alright about breeze concern i will try it first,if my tech doesnt work, i will remove from deck and his existence from the bw lol | |
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nerolwo Teacher
Posts : 253 Join date : 2010-12-29 Age : 37 Location : Texas
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:23 pm | |
| OMFG did u just wrote that BW are dead??? OMG , i need to make a funeral ... oh wait i sold my bw deck
and hell no!!!! is not dead actually is a very strong deck IF!!!! u have 3 dualities ,
after clarifying that , the deck is pretty standard , some meh tech and my only fix
- Gorz + Spirit Reaper | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:46 am | |
| Lol I made this topic in august Nero. Before the banlist even took effect . I've made a lot f changes since then and clearly yeah they're top tier xD. Read the later posts | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:41 pm | |
| Bump for new deck in the new format. Comment pls | |
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TheWiseman
Posts : 19 Join date : 2011-11-20
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:09 pm | |
| - Harper7000 wrote:
- 1x God
2x Jesus Trololol | |
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Vongola-x Owner
Posts : 2269 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 33 Location : United Kingdom
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:50 pm | |
| First of all, your provided deck list has 39 cards in main, you wrote 10 spells but I count 9... - Zephyrus + 2 TKR or Cydra + 1 MST or Mind Crush 1x Ally of Justice Agent Killer? Decisive Armor? Totally no need for Libra in this deck, better get an Orient, it can save your live. Once, in a duel long ago, Vongy dueled a guy named "K111", who used Trish on Vongy's last cards, but at the same time K111 had only 2000 LP and the trish was his only field. So Vongy topped Blizzard (with no other cards in hand) and summoned Orient for game. The Happy End! Or if you will run Cydra, add Chimeratech. And I still like armor master for more consistency, because you might summon 1 with vayu and need the other with gale | |
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LegendaryFrost
Posts : 1312 Join date : 2010-05-26 Age : 30 Location : Somewhere in Africa
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TheRuler
Posts : 2038 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 28 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:31 am | |
| hmmhmm, I see frost is trying to beat me to take my all-time-spammer title But yes, cool story bro | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Harper's Blackwings Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:06 am | |
| yeah mst is the 10th card, idk why i forgot to write it lol. zeph has helped a grand total of once, and it doesn't seem to help the strategy much...wanted to main tkr and i can go 41 just this once haha. and someday, that will be a bedtime story for my future kids xD. thanks for the help | |
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