Blackwings & me

This is my take on Blackwings. I really like it & i was wondering if i could get some insight.

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My build:

https://imgur.com/gRgs2

Thunder King is just really nice here, and you have the space for maining him, so in this format especially, that means: main him. Sirocco + Vayu is becoming less and less important this format imo. I actually use Vayu for Shura food more than anything. I'm currently testing just only 1 Vayu, usually i've always used 2, but i drew him too much >.<. Breeze isn't good, just being real with you. Zephyrus is a card that comes in and out of the deck. He makes combos in a deck that is generally straightforward, and he's level 4 for the Blizzard play, but he's dead sometimes. But i will probably test him again soon. Throw him in and make it 41 if you want. Finally, using 2 Armed Wing is fine since it's definately possible to summon more than 1. I just chose Librarian for more options. Up to you.

Immediate changes to the deck i made thanks to Harper's suggestions. I'm using Vortex the Whirlwind in this build. I don't really get to use lvl5 Synchros much so what do you think of it over T.G. Hyper Librarian?
-1 Vayu the Emblem
-2 Breeze the Zephyr
-1 Armor Master
-1 T.G. Blade Blaster
+1 Mirror Force
+2 Thunder King Rai-Oh
+1 Steelswarm Roach
+1 Decisive Armor

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Make sure you make some of the other changes too, bc with 1 Vayu, Burial is near-useless (even in Vayu Turbo is only a tech). And Sir can become clogged more often that you think with other things you want to normal summon like TKR. So I would drop 'em for the bth's, or at the very least drop burial. Vortex over Libra is perfectly fine

Edit: noticed you don't have Mind ._. Make room for it. Drop a Duality if you have to

Another load of revisions after a mild scolding from Master Harper With 'Mind Control' the chance to get a level 5 synchro increases & it also helps troll the life out of my opponents. With two TKR would teching in BLS & making the overall 41 hurt me too greatly? What are thoughts on my side deck, does it give the most bang in this type of deck?
-1 Burial from a Different Dimension
-1 Sirocco the Dawn
-1 Pot of Duality
+2 Bottomless Trap Hole
+1 Mind Control
+2 Maxx "C" (Side Deck)

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Just that Skill Drain is really nice. Stops Inzektors well and affects you but just not as much as the decks you will side it against since your monsters will be bigger

My IRL build - https://i.imgur.com/Mvras.jpg
don't have such cards as maxx or veiler, so don't ask xD

made it with cheap cards or card that I got from packs/trades so ain't that impressive, but is doing not bad in locals

Vongola-x wrote:

My IRL build - https://i.imgur.com/Mvras.jpg
don't have such cards as maxx or veiler, so don't ask xD

made it with cheap cards or card that I got from packs/trades so ain't that impressive, but is doing not bad in locals

That's a pretty good build for what it's worth. Anything you can add about mine, suggestions or maybe an answer to the question from my previous post? Took Vortex back out because summoning it is actually harder than i had first envisioned. I noticed i can get level 10 syncs pretty easily & think i could try something besides the 1 Decisive Armor...

-1 Vortex the Whirlwind
+1 T.G. Hyper Librarian

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i srsly think u need
- 2-1 maxx C
- 2 TKR
- BLS
- 2 veiler

and i think one vayu is enough really, u don't wanna top deck him in a bad situation, plus BLS can clear a dark monster for DAD to get in field.

and u don't want ur opponent doing whatever he likes so maxx and veiler are very good in almost every deck.

I honestly like Skill Drain more than Veiler in Blackwings. It's really MU-dependent, but Veiler can be thrown from the hand at no LP cost, and isn't a Continuous Trap. Whatever works for you, I guess.

skill drain doesn't work with gorz plus it makes DAD and BLS just good beaters.
veiler is better if u ask me coz first it's for countering whenever u like without affecting ur own monsters and second coz it's a light monster for BLS

You have to know how to play around Skill Drain, which Blackwings can easily do. If you know how to handle it, it be be more annoying than a Veiler. Plus, BLS is just one good monster. It's not like you have to rely on him.

I never liked zephyrus in a BW build, just not worth it, I'd rather add another vayu... because it is tuner u get with shura, good for trish plays and if u get vayu, think about icarus, u run 3...

skill drain is a good side card and works wonders vs the tear 0, inzektors and wind-up...

and 2 mst with 3 icarus, rly?! u can see in my build that I have 0 in main...

That tears it. I'm making a Blackwing deck. It's been so long.

On Zephyrus: It's one of those cards you can use or choose not to on one hand it doesn't go with the usual beatdown strategy. On the other hand, it can add some nice combos. Like summon Blizzard, special Bora/Shura, bounce Blizzard for Zeph, go rank 4 and be able to use Blizzard again. You just used your normal summon to xyz, and you can use it next turn to normal summon a synchro. With Whirl it can make Shura into Vayu a Trish play. But yet...it's just not one of the best cards.

On BLS: normally I say chuck him in wherever you can, but eh. You just dont need him, and 2 lights isn't enough to justify running him.

On Effect Veiler: if you were to run BLS, running these alongside tking would be a way to do it. But honestly, I can't think of 3 cards I'd take out just to be able to use BLS. I can't really even think of ONE card to take out to test Zeph again. And yes, Skill Drain is better than Veiler in BW. You're not going to side it against stun or dw or something stupid. You're going to side it against stuff that autoloses to it. Against wind ups and Inzektors, summon a random shura, flip this when they try to do something, and they lose. Unless they can heavy or MSt it.autolose unless you draw removal...that sounds familiar. Royal Oppression anyone? See, Blackwings special summon, sure. They use effects, sure. But chances are, if you take it away, it's going to hurt the opponent way more than it will you. And that's why BW are cool. Not even mentioning that just the fact that you draw into drain doesn't mean you have to use it right then. Don't use it until they're going to make a push. Like if they summon Debris Dragon or TGU. Go into a big play like Trish, and then flip Drain when they try to do something. Boom! You win, because you hit them hard and they cant explode back. Being able to know when to play cards like drain and oppression is why makes good players great

i only to agree that drain is pretty good in side deck not in main deck.

as for BLS, that guy wins duels pretty easily, plus u won't be chuking stupid light monsters in there just for him, ur gonna use TKR !! the best monster ever, and VEILER !! very useful in almost every duel .

i never liked zeph in my build really, never got to use it

I really like Zephyrus because he sets up quite a few plays & i can't see a reason to 86 him. Another Vayu would be nice for Shura bait but it's been dead drawing too often & i then have to figure out what to do with it. The six destruction cards may seem overboard (3x Icarus, 2x Mst, 1x Storm) Maybe i could phase something out for something more useful. I'm not sure where the Veiler topic came up but i think it was being suggested for the side i think the points made for Skill Drain to stay is much more potent than Veiler's use.

~Thanks for all the help so far, it's really appreciated.