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infernal_archmage
Posts : 172 Join date : 2011-04-01 Age : 33 Location : Cagayan de Oro, Philippines
| Subject: Mind Crush? Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:06 pm | |
| There's been an endless argument between duelists in my area about this card. If the player who activated Mind Crush declared a card name which is not in his opponent's hand, does his opponent reveal his hand to confirm? Same thing if multiple copies are present. thanks. | |
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Quincy99
Posts : 642 Join date : 2011-03-05 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:11 pm | |
| Your opponent must reveal hand to show that he does not have a copy in hand in order to endure there isn't cheating.
if he draws into another copy is fine. but for that play you have to look at his hand | |
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infernal_archmage
Posts : 172 Join date : 2011-04-01 Age : 33 Location : Cagayan de Oro, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:23 pm | |
| Ok thanks. The cause of our confusion is because of what the wikia has in the rulings that it is now previously official rulings that "If the opponent doesn't have the named card, you can check their hand to confirm." And also because it doesn't state in the card that you have to check. | |
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Vongola-x Owner
Posts : 2269 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 33 Location : United Kingdom
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:36 am | |
| If the card that was named was not discarded - reveal hand
If 3 copies, 2 copies if the card is semi-limited, 1 copy if the card is limited - do not reveal
If he discarded 1 or 2 and the rest was already in grave - do not reveal
The second part, if you guessed wrong is considered as discarding by your own card's eff, so in case u discard a dw monster, only the first eff will work. Hope it helps. | |
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infernal_archmage
Posts : 172 Join date : 2011-04-01 Age : 33 Location : Cagayan de Oro, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:59 am | |
| yeah i know about the second part. I beg your pardon on your second statement: "If 3 copies, 2 copies if the card is semi-limited, 1 copy if the card is limited - do not reveal" I quite don't get it. | |
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TheRuler
Posts : 2038 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 28 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:27 am | |
| If the card you declared is semi-limited, and the opponent discards two copies, then he/she can't have anymore in his/her hand. The same with limited (1) and unlimited (3) | |
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infernal_archmage
Posts : 172 Join date : 2011-04-01 Age : 33 Location : Cagayan de Oro, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:46 pm | |
| Oh okay, thanks a lot! It just seemed kinda unfair to reveal your hand even if it the card declared isn't there. | |
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yangaud
Posts : 250 Join date : 2010-10-31 Age : 32 Location : canada
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:02 pm | |
| u are suppose to show your hand to prove it isnt there -.-... | |
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infernal_archmage
Posts : 172 Join date : 2011-04-01 Age : 33 Location : Cagayan de Oro, Philippines
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:29 pm | |
| well yeah i get the point of preventing cheating, I just thought that the judge would be the one to confirm. | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 35 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:56 am | |
| OR even if you do not discard anything, you may call over a judge to confirm there are no copies of the declared card in your hand to prevent showing your opponent your hand. | |
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j0hnb0i Admin
Posts : 1331 Join date : 2010-05-26 Age : 34 Location : California
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:52 am | |
| - SirFunchalot wrote:
- OR even if you do not discard anything, you may call over a judge to confirm there are no copies of the declared card in your hand to prevent showing your opponent your hand.
actually this is false. players are to maintain the game state, without judges, as much as possible. you're not supposed to call over a judge to make any confirmations or anything like that. | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 35 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Mind Crush? Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:25 am | |
| Huh good to know. I wonder when they changed that. Then again the last time I played in any sort of major event was 2009... ^^' | |
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