| Deck Master Format | |
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+8AltaYr RyuheiAoi Dukemon Exiled Harper7000 Princess Hyakka TheRuler SirFunchalot 12 posters |
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Should any of the following monsters be banned from being a Deck Master in addition to Dark Magician of Chaos? | A) Only Light & Darkness Dragon | | 0% | [ 0 ] | B) Only Superancient Deep Seaking Coelacanth | | 9% | [ 1 ] | C) Only Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon | | 0% | [ 0 ] | D) Choices A & B | | 9% | [ 1 ] | E) Choices A & C | | 18% | [ 2 ] | F) Choices B & C | | 27% | [ 3 ] | G) Choices A & B & C | | 18% | [ 2 ] | H) An unlisted monster (please state in comments with why) | | 18% | [ 2 ] |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:18 am | |
| The Rules:- Spoiler:
- Both players start the duel with 16000 Life Points.
- Each Players Main Deck must contain exactly 60 Cards (1 of which is your Deck Master)
- If a player goes first they do NOT draw an extra card and start the duel with 6 cards.
- All cards are limited to 1 except for Normal Monsters. This is true even for Side and Extra Decks!
- All monster cards in a players Main, Side and Extra Decks must either be the same Attribute OR Type as their chosen Deck Master. Example being if your Deck Master is the DARK Spellcaster-Type monster Dark Magician, your deck may only include monsters whose attribute is DARK or their Type is Spellcaster, so you can have the LIGHT Spellcaster-Type monster Magician of Faith in your deck or the DARK Fiend-Type monster Sangan in your deck, but you cannot have the WATER Aqua-Type monster Penguin Soldier in your deck.
- At the beginning of each duel both players Banish (face-DOWN) their Deck Master. If it is in your opening hand, Banish it and draw 1 extra card. The Deck Master is not treated as being Banished and is instead treated as being in the Deck Master Zone. As long as the Deck Master remains in the Deck Master Zone it is unaffected by all card effects and Game Mechanics.
- A Deck Master must be a Normal OR Effect Monster that CAN be Normal Summoned (not Synchro/Fusion/Xyz/Ritual).
- The Deck Master may be Normal Summoned OR SET from the Deck Master Zone as if it were in the players hand. Any effects that involve the conditions on how the monster may be Normal Summoned are applied as normal. Ex: Obelisk the Tormentor may only be Normal Summoned by tributing 3 monsters.
- When a Deck Master would be removed from the field it can be placed in the Deck Master Zone again; in this case it may not be Summoned again on your next turn (unless it is a Normal Monster, then it can be). If the player chooses not to place their Deck Master in the Deck Master Zone it may not return to the Deck Master Zone for the remainder of the Duel.
- If a Deck Master has been played from the Deck Master Zone 3 times and is for a third time removed from the field, the owner of that Deck Master loses the duel.
- If a players own Deck Master has dealt 8000 or more damage over the course of the duel (effect damage directly dealt by the Deck Master is included) to their opponent, the owner of that Deck Master wins the duel. The Deck Master does not have to deal all of this damage in one stay on the field.
If anyone would be interested in playing this format, please post here. I think this would make for a very fun DGA tournament as well. *EDIT* the rules have been updated.
Last edited by SirFunchalot on Tue May 08, 2012 11:24 am; edited 32 times in total | |
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TheRuler
Posts : 2038 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 28 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:21 am | |
| I used to play with my friend using these kinda deck masters, we had these kinds of rules: normal 8000 lp, any monster from deck, you can use it's effect once per turn anytime you want. You can summon it to the field by tributing the amount of monsters it would need for a tribute summon +1, if it's destroyed, you lose the duel It was fun ^^ | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:23 am | |
| Yeah my friends and I played with rules similar to that, these are more similar to the rules in Magic the Gathering's Commander format. | |
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Princess Hyakka OCG/Casual Deck Builder
Posts : 504 Join date : 2011-11-29 Age : 35 Location : Osaka,Japan
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:10 am | |
| lol deck master i remember thoose we should or should play that:) | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:37 am | |
| Good idea, but I don't think that the 60 cards and 12000 lp are necessary. We could do it normal rules on that. But otherwise, nice. Sounds like a good idea for a tourney or arena even. Should be in suggestion box though | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:11 am | |
| the 60 cards and 12000 LP are because it's traditional format so the 60 cards drop consistency and force you to run even more things at 1, and the extra LP helps make OTKs from the banned cards a little less likely (Although Cyber Stein does get a little retarded) | |
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Exiled
Posts : 99 Join date : 2012-01-02
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:19 am | |
| Multiple Times to use Cyber Stein, no thank you | |
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Dukemon
Posts : 425 Join date : 2011-12-30 Age : 34 Location : United States of America
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:41 am | |
| After trying this out i advocate the rebanning of cards Death to Cyber Stein | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:47 am | |
| i don't know how, but i missed the traditional and everything limited rule. do you think we should change that? also, do you "normal summon" the deck master, like tributing a monster if it's Caius, or special summon it? and do we want to add the anime rule that if it dies, you lose? | |
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Dukemon
Posts : 425 Join date : 2011-12-30 Age : 34 Location : United States of America
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:54 am | |
| - Harper7000 wrote:
- i don't know how, but i missed the traditional and everything limited rule. do you think we should change that? also, do you "normal summon" the deck master, like tributing a monster if it's Caius, or special summon it? and do we want to add the anime rule that if it dies, you lose?
Yeah it has to be normal summoned since i did a test play with Funch before he d/c'd on me. The rule about it dying is interesting because it makes the person play a bit more cautiously with it although DM's who thrive from the grave are limited. | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:19 am | |
| Sorry about the disconnect, my computer just decided to shut off But yeah I'd be more than fine with a re-banning of cards, it will just make games take a little longer, and frankly (other than Cyber Stein) with 60 card decks and very few consistent combos because of that a lot of the banned cards aren't too much of an issue and games will probably take a long time anyway (barring Yata lock or Cyber Stein). If people agree to no banned cards I'm sure that would be fine too. As for the Anime rule of losing when you play your Deck Master, I don't think that really makes the games all that fun. Your choice for deck masters aren't exactly the most phenomenal monsters in general anyway and being able to always have access to your favorite beatstick makes the games more interesting than summoning it, having it eat a random destruction spell/trap and then conceding the game. | |
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RyuheiAoi
Posts : 277 Join date : 2011-12-08 Age : 32 Location : Elk Grove, California, USA
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:54 am | |
| I like the basis, but I think the 60 forced cards is kind of stupid. Would the Deck Master count against your overall hand count? You say it's considered to be in your hand while it's banished, so I felt I should ask. | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:13 pm | |
| clarifying that it does not count towards your maximum hand size. The requirement of 60 cards is to make duels take longer and ensure combos are less consistent to enforce a less OTK enforced metagame. Also this format was highly inspired by the MTG format Commander, where players have a 100 card deck that includes a "Commander" which is a Legendary Creature which can be cast from a zone outside of standard play and all cards in said players deck must be of a color included in the mana cost of that player's Commander, also the deck cannot contain more than 1 copy of a single card and cards from all sets are deemed legal, and players start the game with 40 Life as opposed to 20.
My friends and I took that basic concept and adapted it to Yu-Gi-Oh!, however we chose to increase the life total only to 12000 because you might not have the ability to take an opponent down from 16000 with a 60 card deck, but 12000 was a more reasonable figure. There are some really broken cards in ygo's past but with a 60 card deck they become far less reliable and only a select few are still considerable to be called truly too good so we figured games where those cards come into play might end a little faster than usual but would still be fun. | |
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Princess Hyakka OCG/Casual Deck Builder
Posts : 504 Join date : 2011-11-29 Age : 35 Location : Osaka,Japan
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:21 pm | |
| lol about 41 cards 8500LP and deck master's or deck master once they are dead or is remove from tyhe game u lose | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:14 am | |
| The rules have been updated to the general consensus that my friends and I came to after play testing this past weekend. I would really love to get a DM tournament off the ground. | |
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AltaYr
Posts : 37 Join date : 2011-11-28
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:42 am | |
| I love the idea and I like the new rules, but when I think at earthbound immortals and light and darkness dragon or photon sanctuary and fires of doomsday I start thinking they are a lil bit broked but thx to the limitation to 1 is not a big deal so I say I'm up for this funkish torney xD Hope I don't miss the sing-ups | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:52 am | |
| The EBI's aren't too huge of an issue since you do need to be able to keep a field spell out there if you don't want them to instantly die. But Light and Darkness Dragon and Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth are potential banned DMs as well, so perhaps we should have a vote on that before the tournament is to start. | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:21 am | |
| maybe i'm missing something...but why does being a deck master make them so good? don't we still have to tribute monsters for high level monsters? | |
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Princess Hyakka OCG/Casual Deck Builder
Posts : 504 Join date : 2011-11-29 Age : 35 Location : Osaka,Japan
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:05 am | |
| I love the idea and I like the new rules its vey fun and interesting | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:43 pm | |
| Being a DM allows you to have consistent access to them. DMoC is relatively easily summoned through treeborn + fishborg and can allow you to get back access to any spell (was way too good in testing and truly unfair compared to most other DMs). SADSKC can be summoned very easily as well through the above method and also cards like Unshaven Angler and once played can grant you access to Shooting Quasar Dragon basically for free. The main issue with SADSKC is that there's no way to get easy access to the card, but with it being your deck master this is a non issue. REDMD and LaDD also excel in very similar ways but to a far lesser excent, although LaDD being dropped every other turn and negating everything can be a little too much.
I forgot an option for people who don't feel any of them need to be banned so in this case just vote for Option H and state you feel nothing should be banned. | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:52 pm | |
| SDKC has been banned from being a deck mater. | |
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TheRuler
Posts : 2038 Join date : 2010-05-22 Age : 28 Location : Finland
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:57 pm | |
| Why not Metal Dragon too? | |
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allanpike
Posts : 33 Join date : 2011-12-22 Age : 29 Location : ENGLAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:47 am | |
| I like the idea of a DM Format, but I disagree with some of the suggestions and ideas, but I've just had one that might work.
Why don't you have DM Advanced and DM Traditional? DM Traditional can have the current rule set, while Advanced has a rule-set more linked to the current actual rules of Yugioh. | |
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Quincy99
Posts : 642 Join date : 2011-03-05 Age : 36
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:51 am | |
| Wow this looks quite fun! I'm very much interested in this | |
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gutsberserk Berserk
Posts : 686 Join date : 2012-02-08 Age : 32
| Subject: Re: Deck Master Format Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:55 am | |
| Then make a deck and duel against me. I lost horribly but it was still fun. | |
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