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gradyent
Posts : 116 Join date : 2011-11-22 Age : 36 Location : Staring at the Gates of Dark World, being escorted by Kushano and Grimro
| Subject: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:22 pm | |
| in the official Konami rulebook ver. 8.0 the definition of discard says "the act of SENDING a card from your hand to the graveyard" so what makes that different from SENDING 1 card from your hand to the graveyard... is it a translation issue it, or is it one of those "because konami said so..." things just wanted to clear that up... | |
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Quote Moderator
Posts : 503 Join date : 2011-08-28 Age : 31 Location : Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:40 pm | |
| BECAUSE!
Konami said so. =D
They like labelling actions. I don't know if they do it to prevent certain combinations from existing, or if it's a lack of consistency on their part. To me, it feels like a bit of both. | |
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gradyent
Posts : 116 Join date : 2011-11-22 Age : 36 Location : Staring at the Gates of Dark World, being escorted by Kushano and Grimro
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:31 am | |
| - VioletSk227 wrote:
- I don't know if they do it to prevent certain combinations from existing,...
lol i can see that like creator and dw for example that would been a disater to yugioh a few years back lol | |
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canadian_idiot
Posts : 86 Join date : 2012-02-08 Age : 37
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:52 am | |
| It's basically the same as sacrifice vs. destroy. They do the same basic thing, but have different nuances. | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:21 am | |
| - VioletSk227 wrote:
- BECAUSE!
Konami said so. =D
They like labelling actions. I don't know if they do it to prevent certain combinations from existing, or if it's a lack of consistency on their part. To me, it feels like a bit of both. Sort of...but not really at the same time. Think about tributing from the hand. "what, i can't tribute from the hand..." yes you can. ritual spells tribute from the hand, and a few cards like Ennead tribute from the hand. does that mean that you can use the effect of Geb, Holy Marked Dragon when you use Polymerization to send it from the hand to the grave? NO. can you if you use it for a ritual summon. YES. konami means exactly what it says. discarding to the grave is sending from hand to grave, but not all acts of sending from hand to grave is discarding. sometimes when you send something from hand to grave, it is tributing. some is plain old sending. a square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares. | |
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Zembobway150
Posts : 115 Join date : 2011-10-28
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:41 pm | |
| - Harper7000 wrote:
- a square is a rectangle but not all rectangles are squares.
I love that example i use it all the time. That is exactly right though, couldn't say it better my self | |
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gradyent
Posts : 116 Join date : 2011-11-22 Age : 36 Location : Staring at the Gates of Dark World, being escorted by Kushano and Grimro
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:28 pm | |
| right i get that about not all sendind is dicarding but not vice-versa, but what effects that say send one from your hand to the graveyard for --- effect, now would that mean that theres is some difference compared to it just saying discard 1 card for --- effect the reason im asking for a more clear definition is because the text on some of the cards are worded different but if in fact the act is the same why is it written on some cards and not others which is what i was getting at by quoting violet | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:19 pm | |
| Some effects only occur when they are discarded. Also cards cannot be sent to the graveyard to pay a cost if a card like Macro Cosmos is on the field, where as a discard cost can still be paid. These are really the only differences. For all intents and purposes they might end up playing out exactly the same in some situations, but there are other situations where the wording difference can end in a different result. | |
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gradyent
Posts : 116 Join date : 2011-11-22 Age : 36 Location : Staring at the Gates of Dark World, being escorted by Kushano and Grimro
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:53 pm | |
| well yea, that makes since, so to make sure i hear you right on this funch discard = one from to wherever, whereas sent is from the hand to a specific place...? | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:10 am | |
| You can only discard from your hand. You can send cards from any zone to any other zone. If a cards COST says that you must SEND a card from one zone to another specific zone and you are unable to do that due to a card effect, such as Macro Cosmos, you may NOT activate that card. If the card's cost said "discard 1 card to..." then you can still activate it under Macro Cosmos. Discard costs NEVER say "discard to the graveyard".
I don't know why this is so hard for you to get, discard is just a keyword given to a specific instance of a card being sent from the hand to what is most often going to be the graveyard. Certain effects only trigger when a card is treated as being discarded. That's it, that's the ONLY difference. | |
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Harper7000 Chaosking
Posts : 2580 Join date : 2010-05-27
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:16 am | |
| - SirFunchalot wrote:
- Discard costs NEVER say "discard to the graveyard".
Brionac would like a word with you. | |
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SirFunchalot
Posts : 799 Join date : 2011-10-03 Age : 34 Location : New York
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:43 am | |
| Oh yeah they errata'd him to say that lol
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Kuma13
Posts : 31 Join date : 2012-02-09 Age : 31 Location : Cloud 9
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:37 am | |
| i agree with what VioletSk227 said ....kause konami said so.....we no say so in what the duel gods say.... there are alot of sick combinations that kuld be pulled off if they have the same jurisdiction | |
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gradyent
Posts : 116 Join date : 2011-11-22 Age : 36 Location : Staring at the Gates of Dark World, being escorted by Kushano and Grimro
| Subject: Re: Discard Vs. Send from your Hand Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:42 pm | |
| its not that im not getting it i just wanted some clarity on why it was discard on some and sent on others, im clear on it now thanks to everyone here | |
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