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PostSubject: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptyFri Dec 23, 2011 4:49 pm

Is Trance Archfiend's effect a cost?
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptyFri Dec 23, 2011 4:58 pm

Nope. "You can discard 1 Fiend-Type monster and have this card gain 500 ATK." The word "and" is the key word to look out for. It implies that both actions happen simultaneously at the resolution of the effect, whereas the word "to" would imply the first action as the cost while the following action is the effect that happens at the resolution.
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptyFri Dec 23, 2011 5:03 pm

okay, i thought so, thanks again!
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptyFri Dec 23, 2011 5:04 pm

Bronnco wrote:
Nope. "You can discard 1 Fiend-Type monster and have this card gain 500 ATK." The word "and" is the key word to look out for. It implies that both actions happen simultaneously at the resolution of the effect, whereas the word "to" would imply the first action as the cost while the following action is the effect that happens at the resolution.
mhm. this is Dark World's friend Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 6:42 am

Also, adding to Bronncos, If it would be :"Discard One Fiend-type monster. This card gains 500 ATK, until the End phase...." It would be a cost Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 8:17 am

actually ruler according to Problem-Solving text, the way you wrote it out would make it part of the effect and not the cost. putting a semicolon would indicate that part of it would make it a cost.

so something like: "Discard one fiend-type monster; this card gains 500 atk...etc" would make it a cost

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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 8:20 am

j0hnb0i wrote:
actually ruler according to Problem-Solving text, the way you wrote it out would make it part of the effect and not the cost. putting a semicolon would indicate that part of it would make it a cost.

so something like: "Discard one fiend-type monster; this card gains 500 atk...etc" would make it a cost

=b
Lightning Vortex is a cost Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptySun Dec 25, 2011 11:46 pm

Yea, I've always been told that they are costs Very Happy

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Discard 1 card. Destroy all face-up monsters your opponent controls.
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PostSubject: Re: Trance Archfiend   Trance Archfiend EmptyMon Dec 26, 2011 9:35 am

with older cards like lightning vortex yea if it's written like that it is a cost but i said with problem-solving text. haha
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