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PostSubject: Surpass Your Limits    Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:30 am

Gentlemen, you are looking at the deck of the future Cool. Most of you know I loved, and pwned with, Quickdraw Debris variants last format. They got hit pretty darn hard by the banlist...I mean I knew it would happen but I just assumed they would only hit Dandy down to one...no such luck. We lost a Dandy, a Debris, 2 Books, 1 Warning (if you played 3), Cold Wave, Goyo Guardian...ouch. Even that didn't seem SO bad, but by doing that Konami effectively took out what made Debris-Dandy/Quickdraw Dandy so consistant. Debris was needed for Black Rose nukes and Stardust plays, but not only was the chances of drawing into Debris lowered, but it's best target (Dandy) was also less likely to be in the grave. QuickDraw Synchron, despite how much I still like it, was made pretty much unplayable in the deck. Sure, you have plenty of other monsters to pitch besides Dandy, many times QD saved me by dumping a Bulb or Spore that I needed in the grave. But basically it was there to dump Dandy and start exploding...and it's just not worth dead drawing into it if you don't haves Dandy in hand. And cutting QD to 1 also kinda defeats the purpose of even having him.
At first I just repaced the lost cards with other cards that have synergy with the deck, but it was like "no...it's missing something." Not to mention that it can't keep up as well with OTK decks which are ever-so-popular. Then thought about Chaos Plants...it seemed like a good idea, it's most people's solution since the deck has a decent number of darks and lights.
But then I thought..."that's such a mundane way to go. Accepting that the deck is slower and use the herp-derp Chaos Sorceror to try to make up for it." QuickDraw/Debris/Dandy/Plant Synchro/Whatever-You-Want-To-Call-It has never been about slowing down to suit others, only about speeding up. It has the spirit of Yusei Fudo, always acceling past its limits. And then the answer seemed quite obvious: be more like Yusei. I mean seriously...Yusei isn't Yugi or Jaden, the character actually has a lot of skill and his strategies are highly playable even in the toughest meta. He has his random crap cards and highly situational plot device cards too, but Yusei is the REAL main character in my opinion. He's the king of synchro spam. And synchro spam is what the deck is all about.

Enter Shooting Quesar Dragon and Tech Genus Hyper Librarian, the most broken synchros in recent memory, perhaps the most broken synchros ever.
 
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Are they usable? Yes. Then that means that they're abusable. The answer to the banlist for Dandy players is the same answer as it always is: Keep evolving. Keep adapting. Keep speeding up. The way I found to do this is by using a new engine with cards used by, you guessed it, Yusei Fudo. They are:

Junk Synchron
Doppelwarrior

I'm sure most of you have heard of both of these, but I'll explain what they do just in case.

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Blah blah the tokens are in attack mode, blah blah it's only when it's used to synchro and not when it hits the grave. I know. It's not Dandy. Deal with it. It's still awesome. There are many more plays you can do with Doppel. He has synergy with Junk so he can be summoned from the grave, and he is also easily summonable from the hand. Both Junk and Doppel are dark so we may as well use Chaos too since we have the room, and Formula and Librarian are both light and you spam them a lot. Doppel may seem dead sometimes, but he rarely EVER is. You have 3 Junk, 2 Debris, Glow Up Bulb, Spore, Reborn, Call, and Limit Reverses (if you run them) to revive stuff. That's at least 9 cards to revive monsters to set off Doppel. Now let's move on to the new synchros. Hyper Librarian is a generic level 5 synchro, so Junk+Doppel/ryko summons him no problem. There's other ways to spam him too but this is the most basic way. Shooting Quesar, surprisingly enough, is actually playable. The easiest way to go is 2 level 5 synchros+formula synchron. Since he's playable, that makes Shooting Star even more playable than it already was, and soon we'll also have Tech Genus Blade Blaster, which is better in some ways because he's generic. To summon Shooting Star, all you have to have is Debris and Doppel in hand, and Bulb in the grave. Summon Debris, special Bulb, special Doppel because Bulb was summoned. Tune Debris and Doppel for Iron Chain, summon 2 tokens, tune Bulb with a Doppel Token for Formula, draw 1, mill a card, special Bulb again, tune with the other token for another Formula, draw 1, tune Formula with Iron Chain for Stardust, tune the other Formula with Stardust for Shooting Star o_O. So by using 2 cards from your hand (Debris and Doppel), you draw 2 cards and get a gigantic, destruction-negating, attack-negating, multiple-attacking beatstick. So you get a +1 to summon Shooting Star in one turn. There's PLENTY of other ways to summon him too, but that's the "new" way. Shooting Quasar relies a little more on a synchro surviving for at least 1 round, or if you have Reborn or Call to bring a synchro back. Let's say you have a Catastor on the field. Summon Junk Synchron, special summon Bulb from grave, special summon Doppel from hand (or summon Doppel from grave and use Bulb eff from grave). Tune Junk and Doppel for Librarian, tune Bulb with a token for Formula, draw 2 from the combined effects of Librarian and Formula, then tune Librarian and Catastor AND Formula for Shooting Quasar. So you used 2 cards in your hand (Junk and Doppel), and one card on the field (Catastor) to draw 2 cards and summon an EVEN MORE GIGANTIC, spell-negating, trap-negating, effect-negating, double-attacking, Shooting Star-summoning beatstick. So a +0 for the greatest boss monster known to man. If you use another Librarian instead of Catastor, it's a +2 to summon the greateast boss monster known to man. What, he got Solemn Warninged? Who cares? You still have a +2 over the opponent, the opponent has 2000 less life points and you only have one more Warning to worry about. And Shooting Quasar can't be summoned from the grave so e can't come back to bite you in the butt if he dies (yes, i'm also aware that he couldn't be summoned from the grave in that situation because he wasn't properly synchro summoned). If you don't happen to have another level 5, the same combo can give you Hyper Librarian, Formula, and a token. 
Random person in the backround: "Boo! That's boring!"
Me: "Shut the hell up."
By using Junk and Doppel in your hand, you just drew 2 cards and gained 3 monsters...a +3. And that +3 can turn into a Blackrose for even more advantage, or a level 8 if you need that for some reason. Not enough? Okay, fine. Formula allows you to Blackrose on the OPPONENT'S turn so the opponent has to 1. Not do anything significant, or 2. Lose more advantage. Both of those are good for you. There's a crapload of other things to do with this evolution of Debris Dandy, but I'll let you figure them out for yourself. With all the milling from 3 Ryko, 2 Trooper, Charge, Bulb, Tuning, and Foolish, these combos are super easy to pull off. Not only does that allow the deck to keep up fairly well with the otk format, but the deck still has its control elements like Ryko. It can explode, or it can wait around for the opponent to minus themselves.

Here's my decklist. It's by no means perfected yet, it needs more testing, so by all means comment and tell me what you think I should change to improve on it. Cards that are new to my build are explained.

Doppel Plants
       Monsters: (20)
Chaos Sorceror (I will probably bump this up to 2, but I'm not sure what I will drop yet)
Junk Synchron x3 (read the article)
Doppelwarrior x3 (read the article)
Debris Dragon x2
Dandylion
Glow Up Bulb
Spore
Lonefire Blossom x2
Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter x3
Sangan
Card Trooper x2 (got semi'd...why not run 2?)
       Spells: (12)
Monster Reborn
Dark Hole
Giant Trunade
Book Of Moon
Mystical Space Typhoon x2
Pot Of Avarice x2 (dropped 1 for space issues, they can sometimes be dead at 3, and because Chaos sometimes removes my targets)
Charge Of The Light Brigade
Reinforcement Of The Army (grabs Junk or Doppel)
Tuning (grabs Junk. Yeah, he's that important)
Foolish Burial
       Traps: (Cool
Mirror Force
Bottomless Trap Hole x2
Torrential Tribute
Solemn Judgement
Solemn Warning x2
Call Of The Haunted (yeah...it's Call)
       Extra: (15)
Shooting Quasar Dragon (doesn't need to be explained. If you manage to summon him without getting Solemned and you still lose, I will personally kill you for being an idiot)
Shooting Star Dragon
Trishula Dragon Of The Ice Barrier
Stardust Dragon
Colossal Fighter (he's easier to summon now that I have Junks, and he is godlike against sams)
Scrap Dragon
Black Rose Dragon x2
Brionac Dragon Of The Ice Barrier
Iron Chain Dragon
Ally Of Justice Catastor
Tech Genus Hyper Librarian x2 (read Tinycrash's article)
Formula Synchron x2 (added another because I dropped Drill and he's even better now than before. I would use 3 if I had space)
       Other Possible Cards:
Tech Genus Halberd Cannon (as easy to summon as Quasar)
Tech Genus Blade Blaster (easier to summon than Shooting Star)
Arcanite Magician (you have Chaos and Librarian now)
Junk Destroyer (so pro...I want to put him back in so much)
Junk Warrior (Junk+doppel, summon tokens, Warrior goes up to 3100 atk)
Tech Genus Hyper Librarian
Armory Arm (for the colossal otk and because I can summon him)
Formula Synchron
Chaos Sorceror (I'm dropping SOMETHING for him, just not sure what yet)
Dark Armed Dragon
Spirit Reaper
Tragoedia (otk format and doppel tokens are summoned in atk)
QuickDraw Synchron
One For One (duh)
Allure Of Darkness (a lot more darks now)
Mind Control (7 tuners...wish I had room)
Limit Reverse x2
Trap Stun

So yeah, there it is, tell me what you guys think about the article and what you would change for the deck (if anything). I'm thinking 3 Doppel and 3 Junk may be excessive by yet...they're both so pro. I kinda doubt they are. Only testing will tell Smile. Until then, Harper7000 signing off. And remeber... Plants will rule the world!

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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:47 am

Awesome article! Ever since I pulled doppelwarriors, I've wanted to find a way to truly abuse it. this article has given a lot of insight. In your deck, why not use one for one, seems like it can help set up junk and debris plays as well as set up spore and bulb
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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:04 am

Hehe great! =D Doppel is like the new dandylion for me XD
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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:20 am

Pretty nice article Harper Smile ( BTW I still cant understand why You, Tiny and I posted our articles like alost at the same time o.0 )

Your deck is interesting but I have some suggesions for the deck. Like you said, The current format is all about speed ! so You really need Lylas in here. They baith warnings and they clean backrow for your combos set ups. 3 Junks are too much so you will surely find space for it Wink

I have another thing to yell ya, STOP POSTING THINGS ABOUT PLANTS ORIENTED DECKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its all about Saking and its anoying Razz

but meh, what do I know about plants, I will let Tinysack ! heuuu, sorry I Mean TinyCrash ( Mister I activate Bulbs Effect, Opponent chain Crow and for some reasons The card milled with bulb is a Spore XD ) comment on Sack... Sorry Plant Decks XD

I'm Kiding Bro XD Thx for the article Wink But your wrong about plants Rulling the World. the world Is already dominate by Evil Zombies under My Command XD

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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:16 pm

Nice article Harper, jeez TG Hyper Librarian is getting a lot of action Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:39 am

Quincy: Glad you liked it! I am seriously considering One For One, the problem is what to take out and if other things work better or not
Tinycrash: thanks yeah Doppel is great...it can do stuff even Dandy can't do at times. Any suggestions on the build?I know you like plants too Razz
scorpion: hehe well notice I said "Plants WILL rule the world." They don't yet, but when Librarian and Quasar come out they will defeat your Zombie Army xD. Haha thanks for the input, I am considering Lyla

Changes so far:
-1 Doppelwarrior (not that much is needed)
+1 Chaos Sorceror
-1 Tuning (Junk is already at 3 and I have RoTA)
+1 ????
I need help deciding what that last card should be. I'm between Effect Veiler, Lyla, Mind Control, and One For One. Also I'm considering dropping a Junk but I won't until I test it more

also I forgot to mention, Quasar actually is far easier than that to summon. Summon Junk, special Spore from
grave, special Doppel from hand. Tune Junk+Doppel for Librarian, tune Spore with a token for Formula, draw 2 because of Librarian and Formula, remove Lonefire/Dandy from grave to special a level 4 Spore, tune Spore with the last token for Catastor/Librarian, draw 1 because of Librarian. Tune them all for Quasar and you just gave yourself a +2 for Delta Accel Synchro Summoning Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:16 pm

hmmm I wana say go for Lyla but it depends. Will you keep those 3 Rykos ?

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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:06 am

I most likely will I love 3 ryko. It wouldn't hurt ha ing 3 and a lyla though. I decided to drop junk to 2 and add lyla and mind. Veilers are sided. May add a junk or doppel back in at some point but idk. Need help for the side, everything about gk kills this deck so I must side hard against them.
2 closed forest
2 puppet plant
2 dust
2 crow
2 veiler
2 cydra
chimeratech
my body
mind crush

I want moargk hate and maybe mask for monarchs

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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:02 pm

2 fossil dyna
1 zombie world
2 kinecti soldier
2 electric virus
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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:49 pm

nvm what nica said Razz Side decking is not his thing
Zombie world in plants Nica :O you must be drunk Razz

I will suggest to take out the Mbaas. People rarely side noble man in this format and dust tornado, Ryko and lyla are laready there to destroy the opp
If you think that you can let go the mind crus then you have 2 space for pulling or for chain disapearance. choose what ever you think that will help you the most !

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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:08 pm

My precious Mind Crush! No.....nah I will drop it xD. -1 mbaas, -1 mind crush, +2 mask of restrict (bc monarchs are a pain and I have nothing to side against them but crows)

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PostSubject: Re: Surpass Your Limits    Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:31 pm

Yes i was drunk lool the sscopr wayyy
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