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PostSubject: Effect Veiler vs. Extra Normal Summon effects   Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:10 pm

So these are the situations:

Situation 1:
Opponent Normal Summons "Constellar Pollux"
I activate effect veiler in my hand to the effect of Pollux.

does my opponent get an extra normal summon or not? My opponent argues that he still does since Pollux has already been normal summoned.

Situation 2:
Effect veiler activated upon ninishi, leonis, atlantean heavy infantry, and the like. Extra normal summon or no?
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PostSubject: Re: Effect Veiler vs. Extra Normal Summon effects   Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:26 am

In both situations your opponent would not be able to get an extra normal summon

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PostSubject: Re: Effect Veiler vs. Extra Normal Summon effects   Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:27 am

As soon as Pollux is succesfully normal summoned, it stablishes a condition on the field. It doesn't matter what happens next. Even if it's destroyed, or tributed, or Veilered, Or Fiendished, or Drained, AFTER it was normal summoned succesfully, there's no way to stop the aditional summon.

This ruling applies to other monsters as well such as Evilswarm Castor.

However, if Skill Drain is face-up before Pollux is summoned, then he wont be able to stablish this condition since his effect wont happen.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Rulings:Evilswarm_Castor


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PostSubject: Re: Effect Veiler vs. Extra Normal Summon effects   Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:33 am

Yay I love when I'm wrong. =D

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PostSubject: Re: Effect Veiler vs. Extra Normal Summon effects   Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:41 am

j0hnb0i wrote:
Yay I love when I'm wrong. =D

I love it too Smile

Rjuto backed up his answer pretty well so tell me when you want this close archemage.

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PostSubject: Re: Effect Veiler vs. Extra Normal Summon effects   Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:27 am

Dam I hate myself for not reading the whole question lol.

Leonis CANT use it's effect if it's veilered. It's wording is different from Pollux and includes "Main Phase", same as Ninishi...other than that, it's BKSS. Following this logic, if Infantry gets veilered, then you wouldn't be able to normal summon twice.
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PostSubject: Re: Effect Veiler vs. Extra Normal Summon effects   Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:24 am

woot i knew i was right about ninishi, leonis, and atlantean heavy infantry!

i was still wrong about pollux though T_T

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PostSubject: Re: Effect Veiler vs. Extra Normal Summon effects   Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:16 am

ahhh...ok thanks a lot people! Y'all can lock this up now. Very Happy
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