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Nivedo Apprentice


Posts: 421 Join date: 2011-06-09 Age: 21
 | Subject: A/D Changer Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:48 pm | |
| Is A/D Changer able to flip a monster face-down by removing himself from play from the graveyard? or is it only face-up attack or face-up defense position? |
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Quincy99 Wizard Leader


Posts: 642 Join date: 2011-03-05 Age: 25
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Nivedo Apprentice


Posts: 421 Join date: 2011-06-09 Age: 21
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:52 am | |
| well according to what one of my friends is saying is that according to YCS face-down defense position is a legal battle position |
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Quincy99 Wizard Leader


Posts: 642 Join date: 2011-03-05 Age: 25
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:56 am | |
| I never stated f/d defense wasnt legal. |
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Nivedo Apprentice


Posts: 421 Join date: 2011-06-09 Age: 21
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:40 am | |
| that is what i was asking about, but i guess i wasnt clear enough. so is face-down defense a legal position to change a monster to with A/D Changer? |
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Vongola-x Owner


Posts: 2262 Join date: 2010-05-22 Age: 22 Location: United Kingdom
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:14 am | |
| u can't change a face-up monster to face-down with a/d changer
the eff says: "You can remove from play this card in your Graveyard to select 1 monster on the field. Change its battle position."
so if the monster is already face-up the battle position is changed, but it is changed from face-up to face-up... the eff doesn't even mention anything about changing to face-down, so how did u even come to the idea that it could? |
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j0hnb0i Admin


Posts: 1332 Join date: 2010-05-27 Age: 23 Location: California
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:34 am | |
| from what i know, only effects that specify that you can flip a monster face down can flip monsters face down. there might be an exception somewhere, like a random ruling for a certain card (or something like that), but this is usually the case. _________________   | Spoiler: | | | | Quote: | GalladeTheAbsol: Absol-utely J0hnb0i: lol you're so PUNny GalladeTheAbsol: So a dyslexic man walks into a bra... QuoteCaveStory: I'm going to destroy you both. GalladeTheAbsol: Hey Camden, What's green and has wheels? GalladeTheAbsol: Grass. I lied about the wheels. QuoteCaveStory: ... GalladeTheAbsol: I'd say a joke about Mexicans and blacks, but once you've heard Juan, you've heard Jamal QuoteCaveStory: omg I'm ending you GalladeTheAbsol: I'd make a joke about pussies, Camden, but you wouldn't get it =D QuoteCaveStory: THAT'S IT J0hnb0i: lmao
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Nivedo Apprentice


Posts: 421 Join date: 2011-06-09 Age: 21
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:41 am | |
| i was only going off of what my friend had said. he was saying that since face-down is a battle position, you could change it froma face-up battle position to face-down defense position, since they are all battle positions, and he was using what e heard from YCS to back himself up, but im not 100% sure what exactly he heard either |
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j0hnb0i Admin


Posts: 1332 Join date: 2010-05-27 Age: 23 Location: California
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:12 am | |
| i'm sorry but i'm pretty sure that whoever told him that at the YCS is wrong. unless a card says that you can put a monster face down it won't flip it face down. face-down is a battle position, but like i said unless it says you can do it you can't flip it face-down =b _________________   | Spoiler: | | | | Quote: | GalladeTheAbsol: Absol-utely J0hnb0i: lol you're so PUNny GalladeTheAbsol: So a dyslexic man walks into a bra... QuoteCaveStory: I'm going to destroy you both. GalladeTheAbsol: Hey Camden, What's green and has wheels? GalladeTheAbsol: Grass. I lied about the wheels. QuoteCaveStory: ... GalladeTheAbsol: I'd say a joke about Mexicans and blacks, but once you've heard Juan, you've heard Jamal QuoteCaveStory: omg I'm ending you GalladeTheAbsol: I'd make a joke about pussies, Camden, but you wouldn't get it =D QuoteCaveStory: THAT'S IT J0hnb0i: lmao
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Vongola-x Owner


Posts: 2262 Join date: 2010-05-22 Age: 22 Location: United Kingdom
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:47 pm | |
| omg... I already told u, that once a monster is changed from face-down to face-up only cards that STATE that you can change it to face-down can to it, the monster eff simply changes the battle positions and from face-up atk u can change it only to face-UP def, the monster eff does the same as if you yourself would change the position, like u can once per turn...
if someone else tells you otherwise ask for f**king proof or tell him to stfu... |
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Supreme_King Apprentice


Posts: 294 Join date: 2010-05-29 Age: 18 Location: Romania
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:33 pm | |
| I think he was referring to the Empty Jar deck that topped, using A/D Changer to flip the Jar. Well, A/D Changer changes the battle position of a face-down Jar, but because it's face-down it must be flipped face-up. But you can't use A/D Changer as a Book of Moon. |
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Shadow Archlord


Posts: 299 Join date: 2011-03-10 Age: 18
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:39 am | |
| For some reason I think this guy/girl is testing DGA's rulings... |
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j0hnb0i Admin


Posts: 1332 Join date: 2010-05-27 Age: 23 Location: California
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:21 am | |
| or he/she just really trusts our rulings haha _________________   | Spoiler: | | | | Quote: | GalladeTheAbsol: Absol-utely J0hnb0i: lol you're so PUNny GalladeTheAbsol: So a dyslexic man walks into a bra... QuoteCaveStory: I'm going to destroy you both. GalladeTheAbsol: Hey Camden, What's green and has wheels? GalladeTheAbsol: Grass. I lied about the wheels. QuoteCaveStory: ... GalladeTheAbsol: I'd say a joke about Mexicans and blacks, but once you've heard Juan, you've heard Jamal QuoteCaveStory: omg I'm ending you GalladeTheAbsol: I'd make a joke about pussies, Camden, but you wouldn't get it =D QuoteCaveStory: THAT'S IT J0hnb0i: lmao
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Scorpion67 Drunken Master


Posts: 1945 Join date: 2010-05-23 Age: 27 Location: Montreal, Canada
 | Subject: Re: A/D Changer Thu Jul 21, 2011 6:36 pm | |
| Lol I had this problem against an empty jar player during a tournament. HE called the judge 3 times in the same match for the same god damn rulling -.- and the judge told him the 3 times that it DOESN'T flip the monster. so Yeah I confirm And I Close this cuz its getting anoying  |
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